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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 21, 2008 8:50:39 GMT 1
Hi weve had another lovely ride on an AA truck an another weekend ruined. Yes its carolina again! We had her in volksmaster and he serviced her and found the fuel filter filled with cr*p and could not get hold of another one like ours apparently is unusual two different size conections instead of being the same size, so he adapted one. She was running great until a about an hour into the journey she started to chug again so we pulled into petrol station to check and put some more fuel in, when driving out about 200yards up the road she spluttered to a stop so we think we have narrowed it down to a fuel tank full of muck.Sorry i know its long winded! How much hassle is it to replace a tank on a 2ltr injected engine coz i think thats going to have to be the next step as we dont think its the engine has she was running smooth ta kaz & tez p.s fuel gauge does not work also.
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Post by Twodogs on Mar 21, 2008 18:42:42 GMT 1
Not having much luck are you but it will get better when you get over the teething troubles A freind of mine had his fuel tank changed by Manchester Air Cooled, he got the tank at VanFest last year and had it changed early this year. If I can find a tele no for you I'll post it up. Cheers Mick
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 21, 2008 20:14:18 GMT 1
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Post by Sooty on Mar 22, 2008 9:42:25 GMT 1
When your posting a pic, after you have resized it to message board size, you need to scroll down and just to the right of your pic are 4 codes. You need the IMG code.... the bottom one of the 4. Copy it and paste onto the forum page....... Then your pic comes straight up!! Was that fuel filter new after last breakdown then?
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Post by keredewor on Mar 22, 2008 9:58:26 GMT 1
Fuel Tank = Engine Out
You can get them refurbished by splitting the tank, blasting it clean, recoating and repainting internally, you will NEVER get rid of the crud unless you either repair or replace the tank.
When you replace the tank run the fuel lines differently so that you have easy access to the in line fuel filter, that way you can keep your eye onit when you do your weekly checks etc.
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 22, 2008 12:04:44 GMT 1
Hi guys thanks for the info, the filter was supposed to be new when we bought her in feb. My hubbies going to put another filter on today so we can check the old one and see if its as bad, as weve only done one trip since should be telling!!We are very green and have just purchased the idiots guide to vw engines so do you have any ideas to a rough cost on having this done ( i know its a can of worms). Thanks for helping me post the picture will have a go next time. cheers kaz & tez
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Post by orvil on Mar 22, 2008 12:24:24 GMT 1
If your bus has had a recent re-spray you may find your tank has somehow got contaminated due to the dust generated in the sanding and spraying process the only way to be sure would be to get the tank flushed and replace your filter. ;D
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Post by Chris Wizz on Mar 22, 2008 13:43:19 GMT 1
The only was I could get my tank clean was to replace it! Before starting to weld my car, I filled the tank with water, so not to have any air space where fuel vapor could collect. Good idea? Well may be, but I should really have removed the water after I had finished welding. As I never got back to work on the car untill last year 4 years after I filled it with water So basically it was a bit rusty and needed replacing. Managed to get one of the bay for £26, but its always a gamble as to if its any good. But as it was only in Bingley I risked it. I suppose if you start with a new tank and replace all the fuel components which may spoil, you know you will have a fair few untroubled years.
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Post by keredewor on Mar 22, 2008 14:29:22 GMT 1
Right then........before you shelling out a load of dosh suggest the following.
1. Drain off in to a fuel can as much fuel as you can get out of the tank (Undo the hose from the other side of the fuel filter) 2. When you believe you have drained the tank then 3. Get a piece of (Clean) garden hose say, 6 feet. 4. Get a container of some sort to drain fuel in to as you will rotate the drained fuel 5. Put the hose in to the tank until you can feel it touching the tank bottom 6. Undo the fuel pipe from the outlet side of the filter (Put a cheap £1) in line see through filter in the fuel line 7. Pour some of the emptied fue, say a gallon at a time only, in to the tank and through the filter at the same time one of you swills the hose round the tank 8, You will have to refilter the fuel you rotate but that just needs to go through a gauze funnel in to a third can. 9. You will soon judge how much crud comes out and as you swill it will clean up, hopefully enough to clean the majority out.
This is a cheap trick to at least see if all it is is sediment and may save you a £40/500 repair job, basically all you are doing is flushing out your tank.
It IS worth a try, let us know if this works for you.
Another issue is where you buy your fuel, IT could be contaminated if yiu buy it from an old garage, modern cars can deal with crud, older VW's can't because of compression/jet set up, if yoiu have bought contaminated fuel the garage is liable, might be worth a try?
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 22, 2008 14:30:16 GMT 1
Thanks orvil she has just had a respray so that makes sense and also because she was an import and was owned by a retired couple and as been stood for long time proberly wont help. Thanks chris its looking like we are going to replace with new as this will give us piece of mind its just knowing where to take her and costs. So if anyone out there knows a good garage that is resonable please let us know cheers kaz & tez
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Post by keredewor on Mar 22, 2008 14:35:10 GMT 1
You can do it yourself (Engine out...1 hours, fuel tank out 20mins) flush fuel tank and or replace £££ ) Replace 2/3 hours
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 22, 2008 15:02:17 GMT 1
hI DOESNT SOUND AS BAD WHEN YOU BUT IT LIKE THAT, CHEERS FOR THE ADVICE. WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW WE GET ON TA KAZ & TEZ
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Post by orvil on Mar 22, 2008 15:30:09 GMT 1
Dubtricks give Jez and Lou a ring!!
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 22, 2008 17:41:54 GMT 1
cheers orvil will do !
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Post by keredewor on Mar 22, 2008 18:44:38 GMT 1
Yep Jezwill do a good job for you but why not at least give what I suggest a try, nothing to lose....
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 22, 2008 19:19:17 GMT 1
Hi yeah hubby on the case, we are going to give it a try if it fails then we will give them a ring. ta kaz
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Post by jellibus on Mar 23, 2008 8:40:11 GMT 1
Just seen this thread. Not too sure on this one but, isn't the 2ltr the type 4 motor? If it is, you might be able to get the tank out without an engine removal. Seem to remember taking out the one on my 1970 Bay with the engine still in, so later ones should be the same? Another thought, you could completely drain the tank and laeve it dry until all the fuel evaporates off. all the residue should then become dust? Remove the sender to avoid damage (or replace if it isn't working)unit and rig up an attachment on your vacuum cleaner and give it a good hoovering out. Personally I'd go with the removal as it's the only sure way to ensure total cleanliness. www.frost.co.uk also do a 'tank repair kit' which looks very good in theory - never tried it though
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 23, 2008 10:50:52 GMT 1
Hi im not sure when it was in the garage before he said he would have to take engine out, we are in the process of draining tank at moment to see if we can clean it ourselves if not we will have to put it in a garage has we have limited knowledge although we are learning all the time ta kaz & tez
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Post by keredewor on Mar 23, 2008 12:58:11 GMT 1
Fuel Tank out = Engine out
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Post by kaz02 ( carolina ) on Mar 23, 2008 13:22:18 GMT 1
yep you are right, what a learning kerb this is, thanks
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