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Post by mmmc on Apr 14, 2008 13:47:27 GMT 1
Hi all - how hard is it to replace the wiper motor on an early bay van? Think mine is playing up. Only one speed is working and if they are on for a while you can certainly smell the motor working. Anyone else suffer these problems? Cheers
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Post by keredewor on Apr 16, 2008 15:27:56 GMT 1
Dead Easy......before you strip it out though I suspect it may only be dry bearings (They have brass ferrules that go in each end of the wiper mechanisms), get a torch, some WD 40 with a squirter on the end of it (The long red tube) and lubricate each ball joint (Liberally)...........then try it with the windowscreen wipers lifted off the window, let it run a short while then lubricate liberally again..........try them on the window after that and see if that works better.
If the motor has to come out...........its easier if you call me and I will explain.
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Post by mmmc on Apr 16, 2008 16:27:03 GMT 1
Cheers mate - I'll give it a go and let you know...
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Post by keredewor on Apr 23, 2008 14:03:56 GMT 1
Did you fix it then???
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Post by mmmc on Apr 23, 2008 22:51:58 GMT 1
I'm not sure is the answer...I have sprayed all the joints but the 2nd speed still dosn't work. Also if you switch the ignition off and the 2nd speed has been left on the fuse blows. I can't understand how slow speed works and the second speed crawls along or dosn't work at all! I just hope its not raining on the way to Standford hall! Any clues mate?
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Post by mmmc on May 7, 2008 11:47:03 GMT 1
The saga continues...didn't end up taking the van to Stanford cause of the threat of rain...then it didn't bloody rain!
Anyway - can someone tell me whether the wires that are attached to the wiper motor are soldered on or whether they are clips or spades. Mine are soldered which will make the job more interesting!
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Post by keredewor on May 7, 2008 13:13:32 GMT 1
soldered as they enter the motor, from memory you may have some disconnect spades in each wire, just trace it as far as you can, if no spades cut each cable about 2inches in distance apart from each other so you can crimp on some new connectors (Disconnect the battery)
If you have no crimp lugs I will bring some for you at Sundays meet.
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Post by mmmc on May 7, 2008 14:02:59 GMT 1
The more I look at this the more it looks like a bodge job...I'll look again but the wires look like they have been soldered directly from the switch to the motor! Plus I think its been wired wrongly...1st turn of the switch was high speed and second turn was slow...and according to the manual it should be a white fuse in the the fuse box and mine is the red...all spells danger to me. I can get a second hand motor probably for about £20 - £30 but would like to know your opinion...is it worth just going for the new? I've got some connectors but cheers for the offer.
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Post by keredewor on May 7, 2008 15:34:10 GMT 1
Before you decide to renew the motor it needs to be checked with a multimeter for each set of windings, it will probably have 3 wires ?
1. Negative or earth 2. slow speed tapped to central winding 3. Fast speed tapped to full winding
From the switch it will have a common feed from your red fuse (yes/no) that should be live when ignition switched on (Not neccesarily engine running though), your switch is a rotary switch (yes/no), from two poles on your switch the wires should go to 2 and 3 above (yes/no)
The white fuse is lower current than your red fuse, if your manual says white it should be white, if your motor is only running at one speed it sounds like the windings are burnt out.
take each end of your wires and disconnect from the switch (Make a little diagram to show what colour you have removed from where) strip some cable insulation off and test each wire for open or closed circuit, if its open circuit your windings are fecked = new wiper motor.
If you are unsure or NOT confident about what you are doing then get an auto electrician to look at it, it will pay off because a fire in a loom for using heavier fuses is a non insurable event.
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Post by mmmc on May 7, 2008 16:53:38 GMT 1
really appreciate your help..and thanks for this information. I'll take a look at it and come back to you. Unfortunately I'm on babysitting duty the next 2 nights so excuse the delay...
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Post by mmmc on May 22, 2008 22:34:50 GMT 1
I'm having a nightmare. Got the shiny new motor from Just Kampers only to have just found out that the bloody thing won't fit! I'll be talking to them in the mornin as its advertised as an early bay wiper motor.
The bracket that attaches to the body is at the wrong angle and whichever way I tried it wouldn't fit.
I am now desperate! I'm meant to be driving down to my parents tomorrow night in Rugby and to the Ripley show on Monday....just seen the weather forecast and its terrible so wipers are required. I'll be phoning a couple of places in the morning to see if they have one...fingers crossed.
If anyone has any ideas let me know.
Cheers Marcus
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Post by keredewor on May 23, 2008 19:06:44 GMT 1
Thats a pig, unusual for JK to get it wrong though?
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Post by steveclapham on May 23, 2008 22:33:59 GMT 1
On the way down to Stamford hall one of my wipers fell off. Pulled in to a service station with Daisy bus and our friends Andy and beccy who have a very recognisable T2 tin top. Anyways, the wiper motor started smoking. Yanked out the fuse and drove on. Of course it rained on the way back when we got to Ferrybridge. But although at first can be alarming it is nowhere near as bad as folks make out without wipers. A number of split screen guys do without anyway. Problem is usually road spray. Back to the plot. While shopping round the stalls at Stanford Hall spotted a used wiper motor and bought it for a fiver. Fitted it when I got home and it now works fine. With a little wiring help from Andy. Copied the connections from his Type 2. Heres a problem that dosent help. If the wiper drive spindles are worn, instead of the splines nipping into the arm, the drive spindle clamps up tight and overloads the wiper motor. Then it overheats and smokes just before the fuse blows. The original ones are no longer available which is why JK sent you that one. Apparently the later type have to be modified...thats not the wiper motor bracket but the fixing bracket. Which is why a good second hand one is important. If you wish to fit the new one then modifying the fixing bracket is the only way to go. However, You can get your original one repaired. I have a contact who is rewinding mine. When it is sorted I will refit that. So I will have a servicable spare. If you fit your new motor to your existing mechanism then it may happen again if the spindles are worn. Checkout the small splines. If you are still stuck then I will donate my old one...or bring your old one to the next meeting and I will get it sorted for you. Apparently there is a very usefull spray on the market that when applied to screens it stops droplets forming. Must be a silicon based product. I drove our Single Cab from Cheltenham and it brayed down with rain all the way untill I got to the A59. The only time I was concerned was after An Asda truck got that close the cab was doused in brown water. Wipers are great but they are just like brakes...overated (only kidding) could be you got a Left hand drive type..or you got a left hand drive and its er... a right han.... aye you know what i mean.
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Post by keredewor on May 23, 2008 22:46:54 GMT 1
Nice one Stooge, very well put and exactly right......the silicone stuff is "RainEx" from Halfords, it works a treat on every kind of car.
I think we need to help him to sort this out, I will pm him to see what can be done to help out.
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Post by mmmc on May 24, 2008 1:26:47 GMT 1
Chaps...well the good news is that i'm sorted! john at beetle people had a 2nd hand complete unit that fitted perfect. i now have wiper again...hurray. thanks to you for your words of wisdom...i have some rainx and will keep it as a backup. the new motor from jk is going back...on their web it says for an early bay but its defo not. bring on ripley...i am not afraid of the rain. vdubs hey...what would we do without their little problems. cheers Marcus
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Post by mmmc on May 28, 2008 12:37:54 GMT 1
However, You can get your original one repaired. I have a contact who is rewinding mine. When it is sorted I will refit that. So I will have a servicable spare. Hi Stooge - very interested in getting my old motor repaired if you can help me out? Ta
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Post by steveclapham on May 29, 2008 22:44:22 GMT 1
ok, I will sort it. Getting a price for mine tomorrow so I'll PM you.
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Post by mmmc on May 30, 2008 9:21:05 GMT 1
cheers mate
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